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Price of Avocado Toast

Jun 15, 2022

On today’s episode, Dr. Natalie Feinblatt, nationally recognized cult recovery psychologist, joins the podcast to discuss the cult-like nature of Dave Ramsey and his evangelical personal financial empire, Ramsey Solutions (The Lampo Group, LLC).

Dr. Feinblatt explores cults from NXIVM and The Children of God to Scientology and “therapeutic” boarding schools. She has been featured on A&E’s Leah Remini: Scientology and The Aftermath, NBC, New York Magazine and more.

She is a Los Angeles native with her Master’s and Doctorate in Psychology from Pepperdine University. She specializes in compassionate addiction and trauma therapy.

Referenced in today's episode: 

Steven Haasan's BITE Model 

Robert Jay Lifton's eight criteria of thought reform as applied to the Executive Success Programs

Dr. Margaret T. Singer - 6 Conditions for Thought Reform

Connect with today's guest, Dr. Natalie Feinblatt, @healingwithdrnatalie on Instagram or through her website at

If you liked today's episode, you definitely need to listen to last week's episode, episode 90, with Amy Fritz. Make sure you are subscribed so you don't miss next week's season two finale. 

Connect with our co-host, Vee, @veefrugalfox on Instagram



Price of Avocado Toast podcast is marketed as and in fact is “one man’s opinion.” This show is not nor should anything said on it be construed as “legal, tax, or financial advice.” If you make investing or legal decisions after listening to this show it is recommended that you consult a qualified professional first. If you don’t, the decision is yours and yours alone.


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